D -Day 6th June

D -Day 6th June

RTS2 06 Jun 2020 08:30 am said..

https://twitter.com/PoppyLegion/status/ ... gr%5Etweet


75 years on . We remember lest we forget.
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Castle Grim Reaper 06 Jun 2020 08:53 am said..

76, unless we forgot last year :?
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RTS2 06 Jun 2020 10:51 am said..

Castle Grim Reaper wrote:76, unless we forgot last year :?


Of course CGR
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Chalker 06 Jun 2020 17:05 pm said..

Sad to say the Churchill Memorial has been defaced again today during the protests in London.
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Gloucester Mute 08 Jun 2020 22:20 pm said..

No doubt someone will find justification for same...…

As a matter of interest will Colston's School, Colston Hall and Old Colstonians RFC now all be forced to change their names ?? In no way am I defending Sir Edward Colston but his deeds and subsequent acts of philanthropy are surely all part of our nation's history. You surely can't just delete it ??
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Russglos 08 Jun 2020 22:48 pm said..

Gloucester Mute wrote:No doubt someone will find justification for same...…

As a matter of interest will Colston's School, Colston Hall and Old Colstonians RFC now all be forced to change their names ?? In no way am I defending Sir Edward Colston but his deeds and subsequent acts of philanthropy are surely all part of our nation's history. You surely can't just delete it ??


The school and hall, where I've seen many concerts, are both up for name changes. The rugby club should follow suit.
His philanthropy will never erase his part in slavery. The campaign to remove his statue, or even attempts to re-word the plaque upon it, has gone on for years. The fact that his statue has been "drowned", mirrors exactly the fate of the slaves who weren't economically viable. I for one have no problem saying that I'm glad that the statue has gone.
2015. That was the year when this country finished paying off the loan that was taken to pay off the slave owners to pay for emancipation. I mention that so that anybody typing that GB brought an end to slavery thinks about what they type next.
We haven't forgotten Nazi fascism because of a lack of statues of Hitler. We don't need a statue of Colston to remember the evil of slavery.
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DieTrying 08 Jun 2020 23:31 pm said..

Colston Hall had stated long before this protest that they were considering a name change. You could argue that Exeter should now change their name due to the suppression of native Americans. The problem is that you cannot delete history nor can you really apologise for what our ancestors did, as it was acceptable at the time but isn't now.However it SHOULD be highlighted via a Museum / school lessons etc, as Modern Slavery still exists and those involved in it, should be hunted to the ends of the earth. Now Historically, if you look at the Slave trade in Africa,it went on long before we got in on the act including White Christians being sold as Slaves by the Barbary Pirates long before the Atlantic slave trade:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Africa

The Transatlantic Slave trade was instigated by the Portugese first, everyone else jumped on the bandwagon:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_slave_trade

What is more interesting is this article, where one African Country is also coming to terms with its past association with slavery. As the Local historian says: "Wilful amnesia": https://www.pri.org/stories/2019-08-20/ ... lave-trade

Colstons Statue should have been removed & placed in a Museum years ago and the Bristol Slave trade explained, etc. The current Mayor of Bristol badly handled an Interview to-day when asked why he didn't remove it & whilst he did say he would have been pilloried if he'd done it in his first year as the first elected " minority mayor", he's been in post since 2016 and so has had plenty of time to remove the "personal affront". I have no problem with any peaceful protest, even if I disagree with the reason for the protest. However what I do find abhorrent is that someone tried to set fire to the Flag on the Cenotaph, which is a memorial to those that died to allow that person to protest "peacefully". i'll leave you with this. one of the first American slaves to earn his freedom, then had Slaves. Go figure: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Johnson_(colonist)
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DieTrying 09 Jun 2020 06:41 am said..

Found this article this morning. Interesting takes from both sides:

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/edwar ... wfhyhb8oH4
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Cherryade 09 Jun 2020 16:08 pm said..

+1 Mute...history is just that history, it doesn't relate and express the views of today....however it should be either a matter of pride or a reminder of the good and bad that has occurred and least we all forget it.

So does that mean all Roman statues, buildings should be torn down too?...after all this was slavery and butcherism at its best!
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