Exeter and headdresses

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18 Oct 2021 19:21 pm:

The programme did not change my view one iota.
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18 Oct 2021 19:36 pm:

To be honest the Words Chief or Chiefs are not spoken by native Americans so the name of the club I don't see as offensive or cultural appropriation but the logo, head dresses and chant can be seen as both if it was replaced by an Anglo Saxon, celtic or other chief I can't see a problem. Seeing as our country culturally includes many cultures but native Americans are not a major percentage even though we have people in this country who do come from that background
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18 Oct 2021 20:48 pm:

This thread was to inform about the BT Sports Rugby programme on the tellybox. Just to remind that there is an off topic thread if folk want to inform, deny or casually chat about the rights, wrongs and morals of the situation.
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19 Oct 2021 04:14 am:

King Prawn Bhuna wrote:This thread was to inform about the BT Sports Rugby programme on the tellybox. Just to remind that there is an off topic thread if folk want to inform, deny or casually chat about the rights, wrongs and morals of the situation.


Well best get in quick before it gets locked! :D
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19 Oct 2021 04:24 am:

Maybe keep this thread as the ongoing Cultural Appropriation one. But move it to Not Rugby and don’t lock it?
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19 Oct 2021 07:13 am:

Moved.
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20 Oct 2021 20:04 pm:

https://www.scottishrugbyblog.co.uk/202 ... -warriors/

This open letter from the Scottish Rugby Blog lays out the arguments against the ‘tomahawk chant’ and the wearing of Native American headdresses very sensibly and articulately. There’s now a real and growing groundswell of opinion against the Exeter branding - thankfully.
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20 Oct 2021 22:26 pm:

I've changed my mind on this based on the Rugby Tonight interviews. Obvioiusly I always knew that some American Indians were offended by the Chiefs' branding. But being offended doesn't mean you're in the right. Any team that wants to call themselves the Chiefs must think chiefs are pretty cool.

The clincher for me is that the headdress is a military honour, much like the badges our veterans would wear on poppy day. Imagine if a team was started in China called the Wuhan Victoria Crosses, and they all wore a VC badge on their jersey, and their fans sang some British military anthem during the games. It could quickly start to feel patronising, especially if we were a relatively powerless minority community.

So while I don't believe Exeter have anything to be ashamed of, I'd be in favour of some discreet rebranding on their part. It's all a sideshow, anyway, and a distraction from the fact that they've been an awesome rugby club for the last 15 years or so.
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20 Oct 2021 22:45 pm:

Richy

Are you saying that if a team formed calling themselves the Shanghai Shed-Heads you'd get the raving hump due to some weird woke cult concept of "cultural appropriation"?
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21 Oct 2021 12:08 pm:

Bod wrote:Richy

Are you saying that if a team formed calling themselves the Shanghai Shed-Heads you'd get the raving hump due to some weird woke cult concept of "cultural appropriation"?


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