Positivity thread

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14 May 2020 08:55 am:

Interesting Nobbler, there are some tracks on the recording that aren't in the anthology; Warning and The Song of Minsterworth Perry. Ill do some digging and see what I can find. Do you know who originally wrote Warning? Update Got it and it's wonderful thanks will post tomorrow. In the meantime here's the man himself reading a few of his poems.

https://poetryarchive.org/poet/f-w-harvey/
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14 May 2020 10:13 am:

Brilliant Marcus I have not heard him speak before, will have a proper listen later.
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15 May 2020 06:17 am:

Warning (to visitors), FW Harvey

A man there was, a gentle soul,
Of mild enquiring mind,
Who came into this neighbourhood
Its wonders for to find.

He sought for vines on Viney Hill,
He wondered much to find
The Drybrook were reverse of dry,
And so perplexed his mind

That as every man he'd chance to meet
He'd stop to question; and
Was answered courteously and fairly
By all within this land.

They told him who had put the lid
On Lydney; who the ale
Misspelt in Aylburton. And he
Delighted in the tale.

And still, like little Oliver,
He softly asked for more;
And with the utmost courtesy
Was answered as before.

Until one sleepy Summer's eve
He came all unaware
Unto a place called Ruardean,
And asked ‘Who killed the bear?'

Then men arose and knocked him flat;
Another punched his head,
And when the rest had done with him
Our gentle friend was dead.

The moral of this simple tale
Is plain. Dear friend, beware,
If you should visit Ruardean
Mention of any bear.

If you should climb to Yorkley Slad
Pause not to question why
They put a pig upon the wall
To see the band go by.

And if your feet so far should stray
As Dymock, lest some hurt
Befall you, make no mention of
The man without a shirt.

Nine lives have cats, and you but one:
Risk not that gift of God!
It's better to be ignorant
Than dead beneath the sod.

Note I've stitched this together from a number of online sources - most which oddly omit stanzas 2 and 3 - and Harvey's own (dialect) recording, so it may differ from versions you are familiar with.
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15 May 2020 12:43 pm:

Marcus, I have noticed some of FW's poems are a bit fluid, ie there are more than on version with slightly different words.
Needed some positivity today.
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15 May 2020 16:42 pm:

Nobbler I think it's the same for most poets esp when they write, edit, have edited, and leave manuscripts with versions at different stages but without stating which is the final one. Gurney's There Was Such Beauty/ The Valley has multiple and very different versions including the title. In his Gurney collection PJ Kavanagh cites the difficulty where an editor has misread the manuscript, published, and then others publish this error, making it the accepted version.
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15 May 2020 16:44 pm:

PS I loved Harvey's readings. Fantastic voice, and still Glos when not in dialect. They were recorded in 1938, the year my parents were born.
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15 May 2020 17:24 pm:

Marcus,
I loved them, particularly loved Out of Mouths of Babes, brilliant simple sentiment.
Noticed that there was a hint of Welsh in his accent, more noticeable than today's Forest twang.
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15 May 2020 18:21 pm:

I have to admit the Forest accent is a strange beast which sounds very different depending on the accent of those listening to a Bristolian they pick up on the Welsh touch and cross border phrases that have found their way into forest speach but to somebody from Newport they appear to be from deepest west country up north Manchester way its seen Bristol west country but Londoners see it as Welsh
Im proud of being a Borderer from the right side of the border living on the wrong side and my accent is the source of endless mirth to many from around here
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16 May 2020 07:21 am:

Wattle-and-daub, Wilfrid Gibson

He slaps the daub against the wattle
And whistles gaily,
Happy because his little cottage
Is growing daily
The little house of withes and loam
Is daily growing to a home.

He whistles gaily as a blackbird
A moment resting
To sing out, on a leafing willow,
The joy of nesting -
The joy that quivers in his breast
To be alive, and build a nest.

So, slapping daub against the wattle,
Ben's heart is singing,
Because each flourish of his trowel
Nearer is bringing
The happy day he'Il bring her home
To their snug house of withes and loam.
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16 May 2020 07:39 am:

Caldi that's fascinating. I was commenting at a match that it was great to hear a Gloucestershire voice in Andy Wyman as stadium announcer. I think he's from Lydney. My neighbour, a Glos city man, said he thought he sounded Welsh.
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