Interesting Interview with Sam Burgess

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Jimbodini 05 Jun 2020 09:42 am said..

What was the story you heard, beddis?
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Ken Burney 05 Jun 2020 09:43 am said..

Did not Bath play him at blindside flanker whereas England saw him as a centre?
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SIBARITE 05 Jun 2020 10:01 am said..

Jimbodini wrote:What was the story you heard, beddis?


+1 If the story exists could we hear it please.
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Sheddy Mcshedface 05 Jun 2020 21:21 pm said..

Ken Burney wrote:Did not Bath play him at blindside flanker whereas England saw him as a centre?


Indeed and that sentence pretty much explains where it all went wrong.
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Old Duffer 05 Jun 2020 21:59 pm said..

My view at the time was that if it wasn't obvious whether he was an international centre or a flanker it was clear he wasn't either. I don't recall many International players who could switch between the two, but stand to be corrected.
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steckers 05 Jun 2020 22:21 pm said..

The story was - he was average. Quite simple. Far too much hype.

He really wasn't good enough to get into the bath team - Fearns was much better. So the selection into England at the 11th hour was an absolute disgrace. But that England team were so poorly coached that it didn't really matter.

Eddie Jones took the same group of players on a huge win streak.
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DieTrying 05 Jun 2020 22:57 pm said..

steckers wrote:The story was - he was average. Quite simple. Far too much hype.

He really wasn't good enough to get into the bath team - Fearns was much better. So the selection into England at the 11th hour was an absolute disgrace. But that England team were so poorly coached that it didn't really matter.

Eddie Jones took the same group of players on a huge win streak.


He was due to join Brucie's Bath Galactico's in in Oct14, which then ended up being, due to major surgery, Dec14. In Jan15 he played for the Saxons v the Wolfhounds. In Apr15 he made his first Prem start. In Aug15 he was added to the England Elite Squad. He was binned in that game and yet was selected for the RWC15 Squad. In RL he was, according to my RL loving mates, a great player but in RU, he was a fish out of water. I like the way he reckoned he could "do it" but even he should have realised that it wasn't going to happen. I believe that he was let down by his advisors, Bath & England.
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Lurker 05 Jun 2020 23:43 pm said..

Interesting interview with him about his RL career as well as the games Mike Ford was playing to kybosh the England team so that he could become manager (according to SB). Came across as an OK guy for most of the interview.
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Not1eyed 06 Jun 2020 07:09 am said..

He was very average at Union and picking him over Luther Burrell caused major disruption in the squad I’m lead to believe.
However, in his defence, he was outstanding against Wales and the biggest mistake of that game was taking him off. I believe that England would have won had he stayed on the field
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Graham Cartmell 06 Jun 2020 07:55 am said..

I have little doubt that he was more than good enough to play the union code given a bit of time and good coaching. The confusion surrounding his best position at Bath was the main issue. Whether Ford used him poorly and then had undue influence within the England setup to cause ructions is quite believable.

Steckers, N1E he was definitely not average and was too easy a target when things went wrong. The Wales game demonstrated that perfectly. A combination of lack of time, his best position (13 in my view), politics and underhand gripes probably did for him.

The amount of abuse he received from the media was way over the top and he barely said a word to defend himself (neither did his own coaches). His right to reply is more than overdue in my book.
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