Glos suing Sale

Glos suing Sale

Beddis 18 Jun 2020 20:22 pm said..

Following the disciplinary case over Rohan Janse Van Rensburg, Gloucester are now suing Sale

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NorthernShedHead 18 Jun 2020 20:57 pm said..

Whilst I'm glad GR are taking action, it seems an awfully strange time to be doing so with so much uncertainty re covid and the perceived unrest at the club.
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PeteG 18 Jun 2020 21:01 pm said..

A distraction manoeuvre from our current woes??
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GlawsyD 18 Jun 2020 21:06 pm said..

If successful it might help the bank balance.
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RossM 18 Jun 2020 21:12 pm said..

For your information - Part 1.
From The Daily Telegraph.

Gloucester are suing Sale Sharks for damages over the tapping up of centre Rohan Janse van Rensburg, Telegraph Sport understands. Gloucester are seeking around £400,000 in compensation after Van Rensburg signed a contract with both Premiership clubs.

An extraordinary Rugby Football Union disciplinary hearing in April revealed how Van Rensburg signed a three-year deal with Gloucester in October 2017 for the 2018-19 season before joining Sale Sharks on loan. The South African centre then signed a three-year contract with Sale in January 2018 without informing Gloucester.

The RFU fined Van Rensburg £32,500 and issued a two-week ban, while Sale were given a £20,000 fine and a five-point deduction, suspended for two seasons, for breaching regulation 7.1.

However, the RFU stopped short of awarding compensation to Gloucester, saying it did not have “sufficient information to make an award which would be fair to both Gloucester and Sale”.

Of Van Rensburg’s fine, £25,000 was awarded to Gloucester to repay the advance they had given him. However, Gloucester are now pursuing Sale through the civil courts.

Few parties emerged with much credit in the RFU’s verdict, which shed a light on the murky world of tapping up, in which clubs routinely approach players to sign for them while still under contract. Under RFU regulations, a player may only speak to another club in the final six months of their contract.

Even when Van Rensburg signed for Gloucester, it was in breach of his contract with South African side Lions, which stated that he should not begin discussions with another club until four months before the end of his deal. The South African Rugby Union has since complained to World Rugby that Gloucester’s actions constituted tapping up, as he had a year left on his contract.

A month after signing for Gloucester, Van Rensburg joined Sale on loan as medical cover. After a string of impressive performances, Sale moved to sign Van Rensburg in January. The RFU panel found that Sale had contacted Gloucester over Van Rensburg’s contract status, but accepted the player’s claim that he did not have an agreement with them.

By March, Van Rensburg admitted to Gloucester that he had now signed a contract with Sale. Both clubs believed the player was theirs and requested compensation from each other for his release.
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RossM 18 Jun 2020 21:14 pm said..

Part 2.

In June 2018, Van Rensburg signed a second contract with Sale, by now fully aware of the competing claim by Gloucester. The episode created considerable rancour between the clubs. Simon Orange, Sale’s co-owner, claimed that Gloucester’s contract was a forgery and called Stephen Vaughan, Gloucester’s former chief executive, a liar when he was giving evidence to the panel.

Orange also commented to the panel that Gloucester seemed to believe that their directors had a “divine right” to be believed. Legally, Gloucester could argue that Sale induced breach of contract – that they signed Van Rensburg despite knowing that he was under contract with Gloucester – or that by breaking RFU regulation 7.1 Sale had breached a contract with Gloucester.

Neither Sale nor Gloucester would comment on the matter.
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MrGlawsRocker 18 Jun 2020 22:08 pm said..

seems like a response to the "two teirs" article where they're using money to exploit a gaping loophole.
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Sheddy Mcshedface 18 Jun 2020 22:14 pm said..

Could we sue them for Faf de Klerk, lood de jager and one of the curry boys!?! :)
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Lurker 18 Jun 2020 22:23 pm said..

Or more worryingly, could the Lions sue Gloucester?
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BullShed 19 Jun 2020 07:13 am said..

What for?

Lions have no financial loss to pursue. The player signed a contract to play for Gloucester after his Lions contract had come to an end. He may have been spoken to prematurely, but that’s a matter for the Governing bodies to deal with (which they have)
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