Loyalty gone, or just pro sport?

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Re: Loyalty gone, or just pro sport?

04 Apr 2021 11:43 am:

Lebowski wrote:Mute the decision was made by Gustard. Quins have subsequently asked Brown to stay but he said he’d already committed to Newcastle and given his word to Dean Richards. I suspect there are still some for whom that’s important.

I also suspect Brown is being completely honest. I don’t like the concept of player power but it seems pretty obvious Gustard didn’t make a lot of friends.


Thanks read it now so better informed BUT of course it is one side of the story only. Though I too believe a rather naive MB's version and can ascertain that Gustard was a very single-minded DoR whilst there. Dean Ryaneque !! :roll: :roll:
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Re: Loyalty gone, or just pro sport?

04 Apr 2021 11:45 am:

As Not1eyed says, this won’t be the first time a player has been shabbily treated. For the record Gloucester have definitely been guilty in the past. I won’t mention a certain Welshman as it’s been done to death, but I will mention a youngster who (according to my sources, and I do accept there is always another side to every story) was very poorly treated. A second row who left for Bristol and is now at Worcester. And from what I heard he wasn’t the only one.

If the likes of Trinder and Sharples aren’t in George’s plans I hope we deal with them much better. I believe we will.
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Re: Loyalty gone, or just pro sport?

04 Apr 2021 12:43 pm:

It’s a tough one to deal with.

Careers, passion, honesty, trust, human beings talking to one another and money.

A heady mix.
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Re: Loyalty gone, or just pro sport?

04 Apr 2021 13:16 pm:

I can understand MB's feelings but he surely should have thought that as he is 35 regardless of form he is in the twilight of his rugby career & that at some stage his time would be up.
That said a 4 minute conversation is shabby but is there a nice way to tell someone 'you are out of a job' -- don't think so!!
Overall not good PR for Quins but sure it will happen again unless clubs can find the cash for big HR departments which isn't going to happen.
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Re: Loyalty gone, or just pro sport?

04 Apr 2021 14:13 pm:

How long before the Mike Brown Bar is renamed...
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Re: Loyalty gone, or just pro sport?

04 Apr 2021 14:56 pm:

Lebowski wrote:As Not1eyed says, this won’t be the first time a player has been shabbily treated. For the record Gloucester have definitely been guilty in the past. I won’t mention a certain Welshman as it’s been done to death, but I will mention a youngster who (according to my sources, and I do accept there is always another side to every story) was very poorly treated. A second row who left for Bristol and is now at Worcester. And from what I heard he wasn’t the only one.

If the likes of Trinder and Sharples aren’t in George’s plans I hope we deal with them much better. I believe we will.


Purdy is probably the best example. But I've been told of a fair few who were badly treated by Humphries.
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Re: Loyalty gone, or just pro sport?

04 Apr 2021 19:54 pm:

Purdy is probably the best example. But I've been told of a fair few who were badly treated by Humphries.[/quote]

If we are honest did Purdy offer anything whilst he was at Glos to want to keep him?? IMHO 'no'. I know that a lot of ex Glos players are elsewhere but they were all released for a reason & I cannot see anyone who would have made a major difference if they had stayed - Afoa apart perhaps.

Players come & players go thats just pro rugby, we just need some cheap stardust if there is such a thing.
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Re: Loyalty gone, or just pro sport?

04 Apr 2021 20:02 pm:

Great to see Purdy doing well, but I’d have him behind 5 or 6 back three players in our current squad.
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Re: Loyalty gone, or just pro sport?

04 Apr 2021 20:49 pm:

spanish exile wrote:Purdy is probably the best example. But I've been told of a fair few who were badly treated by Humphries.


If we are honest did Purdy offer anything whilst he was at Glos to want to keep him?? IMHO 'no'. I know that a lot of ex Glos players are elsewhere but they were all released for a reason & I cannot see anyone who would have made a major difference if they had stayed - Afoa apart perhaps.

Players come & players go thats just pro rugby, we just need some cheap stardust if there is such a thing.[/quote]

Spanish - I do not consider releasing a player to be treating them badly. He was continually told by DH that a new contract was coming, and then at the last minute, we was told it was not. Ok, his agent probably needed to step up - but I'm told that there were other players in the squad stepping up to DH to say - just be honest with him. It's not how you treat people. There is a long list of people who were treated poorly by DH - and I include some current coaches in that.
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Re: Loyalty gone, or just pro sport?

04 Apr 2021 21:41 pm:

It can work the other way too ... were Glos too soft when it came to DC?
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