Ireland v England ogt

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SpiralScratch 19 Mar 2017 10:44 am said..

Must admit hadn't thought of that - its been a while since I've seen Fearns play (and he was Bath at the time!). I was just thinking if MK does get his chance it'll be a bit frustrating if its after he's jumped ship
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Peter 19 Mar 2017 10:45 am said..

In my view England could look to improve at 3, 7, 9, and 15.

Playing Hughes instead of Vunipola might have helped on Saturday.
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Asgard 19 Mar 2017 10:50 am said..

I thought 8&9 was the problem yesterday. BV has not reached international level of fitness both physically and mentally and BY was too slow and ponderous in his distribution which gave the two play makers no chance. In a game of very fine margins it makes all the difference.
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CMGC 19 Mar 2017 11:09 am said..

EJ has admitted that he was in error. Eng were prepared for a fast passing game and getting the ball out. That was in game plan and selection. Schmidt had clearly sorted his priorities ad the last minute change was possibly tactical ... so well done him. Eng needed an 8 man game plan for those conditions and didn't or weren't able to react to the onslaught. As said AF not OF was key to this. EJ after all is still on a big 6N's learning curve as are most of his team. The summer tour will be interesting and then we'll see the next version of this team in the AI's. Lots to look forward to.
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Chalker 19 Mar 2017 11:18 am said..

1 England 5 4 0 1 146 81 3 19
2 Ireland 5 3 0 2 126 77 2 14
3 France 5 3 0 2 107 90 2 14
4 Scotland 5 3 0 2 122 118 2 14
5 Wales 5 2 0 3 102 86 2 10
6 Italy 5 0 0 5 50 201 0 0
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SpiralScratch 19 Mar 2017 11:36 am said..

EJ's ambition is for England to win the World Cup and be as good or better than the All Blacks - so I imagine Eng's overall performance in the 6N is no more than 'good' by his standards and with plenty to improve on - this is an ambition I'm more than happy with - and you don't get to reach those standards by accepting shortcomings, even in victory.

Enjoyed the 6Ns win nevertheless, now if we could get a few more Glos players in the mix . . .
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Number10 19 Mar 2017 13:03 pm said..

Chalker wrote:1 England 5 4 0 1 146 81 3 19
2 Ireland 5 3 0 2 126 77 2 14
3 France 5 3 0 2 107 90 2 14
4 Scotland 5 3 0 2 122 118 2 14
5 Wales 5 2 0 3 102 86 2 10
6 Italy 5 0 0 5 50 201 0 0


Interesting that bonus points didn't make a difference to overall standings. The 3 teams that won 3 games were decided by points difference.
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Glossince86 19 Mar 2017 14:02 pm said..

On reflection of lasts nights game but not to reignite the topic again, as an 18 game winning streak speaks for itself but England missed a breakdown specialist yesterday. Despite the conditions, Ireland were able to get quick ball. Wales undid Ireland at the breakdown with Warbs and Tipuric.
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King Prawn Bhuna 19 Mar 2017 14:22 pm said..

Isn't that rumoured for Chiefs?
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Lewi7 20 Mar 2017 14:10 pm said..

Well done England - to win the Grand Slam and back it up with the 6nations with a game to spare is to be commended. Ireland were hugely motivated after losing a copping a load of criticism in losing to Wales the week before.

The Lions tour means some England players won't have the opportunity for some time to rectify the loss, but I can see EJ making some changes in selection. He'll have learnt alot from that loss:
- Itoje isn't a dark art type of 6, yet. He's not a Robshaw / Hill etc.
- Mako V is great around the park but struggles against the better scrummging tightheads.
- Hartley is a connundrum
- Ford can be targeted and isolated.
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