Times Change...or do they?

Times Change...or do they?

harrydyke 09 Jan 2019 09:21 am said..

A report of Glos. v Cinderford, 28 Sep 1912:

With Gloucester leading midway through the second half by 12 pts to 5, "...the players appeared to have got out of hand, and feelings were very high. Niblett felt the effects of coming into contact with the City captain. Harrison had been assisted off the field by the ambulance men, and Gloucester continued with seven men [i.e. forwards]". Midway through the second period, "...the players appeared to have got out of hand, and feeling ran very high. Once there was half a dozen players mixed up together on the ground whilst the game proceeded, and there was a stoppage on the far side of the ground ...the game eventually resuming. Washbourn went off the field and Pegler was brought out of the scrum, further reducing the pack to six ... at this juncture there was excitement amongst the spectators on the sixpenny side, a couple of men having a good set-to, until stopped by a policeman. The fight forward was uneven with six against eight, although Gloucester got the ball back several times, but it was useless getting it to Hudson's wing for the captain was crippled ...'

The Citizen subsequently reported: "As a result of to-day's game Gloucester have three players on the injured list – Hudson, Washbourne, and Harris – all three suffering from damaged ankles".
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King Prawn Bhuna 09 Jan 2019 09:28 am said..

Excellent!...They're a rough old lot on the sixpenny side...
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foresterinyorks 09 Jan 2019 09:41 am said..

Us Cinderford lads are a feisty lot.
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covglaws 09 Jan 2019 09:58 am said..

When you read some of these old reports, it puts in perspective some of the moans about the pantomime antics of today. Eeeore, you don't know what your doing etc. We're all snowflakes now :D

BTW, Harrydyke, any idea when the next book is likely to appear?
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harrydyke 09 Jan 2019 10:20 am said..

Hope to have our "Up for the Cup" - Gloucester Cup Matches - book out by April/May, and we're already working on the one after that - the top 300 players book.
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covglaws 09 Jan 2019 10:40 am said..

harrydyke wrote:Hope to have our "Up for the Cup" - Gloucester Cup Matches - book out by April/May, and we're already working on the one after that - the top 300 players book.


Excellent, looking forward to it. Wouldn't it be good, if you had to hastilly add another cup final to the book. 8-)
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Legendoft'Autostrada 09 Jan 2019 10:45 am said..

Looking forward to that book. Hope it refreshes memories of 'epic' cup trips to Southend, Brixham and Lewes, among others.
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GlawsyD 09 Jan 2019 11:35 am said..

Ooh! Glad to see one of my distant cousins, Philip Washbourne getting a mention.
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Captain Jolly 09 Jan 2019 18:18 pm said..

harrydyke wrote:A report of Glos. v Cinderford, 28 Sep 1912:

With Gloucester leading midway through the second half by 12 pts to 5, "...the players appeared to have got out of hand, and feelings were very high. Niblett felt the effects of coming into contact with the City captain. Harrison had been assisted off the field by the ambulance men, and Gloucester continued with seven men [i.e. forwards]". Midway through the second period, "...the players appeared to have got out of hand, and feeling ran very high. Once there was half a dozen players mixed up together on the ground whilst the game proceeded, and there was a stoppage on the far side of the ground ...the game eventually resuming. Washbourn went off the field and Pegler was brought out of the scrum, further reducing the pack to six ... at this juncture there was excitement amongst the spectators on the sixpenny side, a couple of men having a good set-to, until stopped by a policeman. The fight forward was uneven with six against eight, although Gloucester got the ball back several times, but it was useless getting it to Hudson's wing for the captain was crippled ...'

The Citizen subsequently reported: "As a result of to-day's game Gloucester have three players on the injured list – Hudson, Washbourne, and Harris – all three suffering from damaged ankles".


Harry, I presume the 'Pegler' mentioned is Fred from Painswick? Do you know if Dave Pegler our second row in the 60's and cousin of my late friend Jack Pegler a second row at Cainscross were related?
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harrydyke 09 Jan 2019 18:50 pm said..

Harry, I presume the 'Pegler' mentioned is Fred from Painswick? Do you know if Dave Pegler our second row in the 60's and cousin of my late friend Jack Pegler a second row at Cainscross were related?


Indeed it is Fred Pegler, but I don't have the answer to your query at the moment. One of our researchers is running a project to try to establish Gloucester Rugby "families", of which there are many, and we hope to start to get the results up on the website as soon as we can. I'll pass on the question and see what we can dig out.
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