Glaws V Chiefs OGT

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steckers 15 Feb 2020 12:41 pm said..

Agreed - they are definitely in a battle for the Euro cup. However, I don't think anyone will pull too far away re 4th place. I can see the top 3 having a little cushion but that's it.

Also, the there is a prolonged league this season due to the RWC so potentially much more dry rugby to come - which is very much where Gloucester should do better.
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plod 15 Feb 2020 12:48 pm said..

Exeter and Sarries have a very simple game plan, fairly risk-free. I think our game is risk heavy, especially with the weather last night. Some daft penalties, especially Marais and VRR, allowed Exeter to get clear of us. Hogg’s try was just one of those things, a very swift counter from a very good player, rather ironically, a risk taker. I am guessing Exeter got him to try and take them that bit further, but he isn’t a classic Exeter player. A further irony is that a Gloucester team of yore would have been revelling in the conditions. We are no longer that type of team. I suppose we might ask ourselves the question whether we want to be. I am beginning to wonder if I wouldn’t have been happy with a 3 nil win.
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Big Red 15 Feb 2020 13:11 pm said..

Clearly our game plan is the set up where first receiver (forward or back) can carry, tip or go out the back to find some width. Surely though the players are smart enough to adapt that to the conditions and yet again I don’t think we did. It’s basic stuff in that weather to stand a yard closer and not throw long passes that aren’t on, but we insisted at times, Exeter clearly expected it and they read it/stopped us behind the gain line time and time again. It was predictable and ineffective.
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westglos 15 Feb 2020 14:18 pm said..

steckers wrote: I'm very concerned about Gloucester - there is a small suspicion that the coaching team may be in denial about the shortcomings of the squad. Hope I'm wrong.


It was interesting that in his post match interview with BBC Radio Glaws, Johan was asked about our DoR's search for players for next season...his answer was that "we have a settled squad". I hope that doesn't mean we aren't looking to acquire at least a tighthead, openside, and wing.
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RTS2 15 Feb 2020 14:37 pm said..

Great to see we are back up and running on SW. Tried to keep posting last night but it was so slow gave up. Tried to keep up on the sportsnetwork with an OGT but that site is beyond !!!. Even as a back -up. It is dreadful . No one appears to go on there for one and secondly trying to update a thread takes 5 mins each time as you have to go through security checks every time you post !!!!...

Hopefully any server issues on here are now sorted. Now onto the match !! )
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Porky 15 Feb 2020 15:00 pm said..

plod wrote:especially Marais and VRR


VRR was not penalised in the second of these incidents, Ben Morgan was. VRR was borderline legal in both cases but Marais and Morgan were not.

I agree we gave away too many dull penalties, though.
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RTS2 15 Feb 2020 15:16 pm said..

We showed some glimpses; but our game plan is rather static and predictable. Cips made one or two excellent kicks for touch the first half and a very decent clearance kick in the second; BUT too many times this season he looks frustrated with himself and he isn't making the breaks or the moves in the backs with his deft passing as he was last season. He is an excellent player as we all know; but it's total inconsistency this season! We do need a good 10 as cover. I would give Lloyd a run IF he's fit. I think that time has come for him to be given chance to prove himself in this league. Either he's good enough or he isn't.

No clarity on what is happening with Owen yet; but he seems somehow sadly to be another signing who is injury-fated.
I thought Marais was excellent in the loose in the first - half. The one player who seemed to be given it 100 %. His throwing -in though was poor.

Mostart plays to the final whistle with total commitment; but he is making too many unforced errors. Ludlow was on his best behaviour last night and worked well in the lineout but wasn't outstanding by any means. I would have liked to have seen Hinkley at some point being given the No.7 shirt but last night’s winners might have his signature all but a done deal? = dreadful business in my opinion from a Gloucester perspective if it happens.

I would like to see Akkers Jnr. Given a break. He looks a bit jaded right now IMO; and he’s in danger of being over-worked again this season. He made a couple of unforced handling errors last night although the ball was slippery, and they weren’t straightforward catch scenarios.
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RTS2 15 Feb 2020 15:18 pm said..

Marshall was wasted on the wing. Banners did the basic OK in fairness; but we have more attacking potential from the back with Marshall. IMO he’s a specialist 15 and Banners is a winger. If he’s no longer quick enough then let him go. Great guy and sqaudie but “business is business”. Charlie is Gloucester through and through. OK putting Banners out to grass at Hartpury might seem unthinkable to some …. but Charlie still has pace and he should be part of the set-up if he’s fit. He is quicker than Banners and always poses a threat.

We made far too many errors last night and right in front of the referee, who I personally thought had an accurate match. Some will disagree; but from what I saw he got most decisions spot-on. That made the biggest difference on the night. Giving Steenson the penalty kicks with the wind on his side was disastrous. Some of the penalties were stupid beyond, although one might have been judged a tad harsh …. but most …. well lack of discipline under pressure.

The defence was tight again for the most part but Hogg’s brilliant try should have been closed-out.

I thought we had mixed fortunes in the scrum and Balmain still does not give me confidence . Yes, sometimes he gets it spot-on and when he does, he can hold his own; but his body positioning is not one of a totally confident tight head. He seems to adjust his initial stance and his a@@ is way to high in relation to his back and shoulder positioning. Not every scrum; but you can tell the one’s he is going to get wrong !. For me he's an excellent No.2 but not the one to head our scrum..we need a solid anchor.
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RTS2 15 Feb 2020 15:18 pm said..

Knighter looked very good when he came on last night and if he could play like that for 55-60 minutes every match he would be starting. He does have the potential and although very young still he has the raw strength. He needs confidence and last night might have just given him that self-belief to step up.

Also, a mention for Todd G. I must admit it; whatever his small stature etc; his throwing -in is excellent. He is probably the most accurate thrower of the ball we have seen at CG for some seasons.

We were our own worse enemies again last night. The last ten minutes showed us what might and could have been. Chiefs deserved the win. No doubt about that. They used the elements more wisely than we did and applied the right pressure at the right time which forced errors. The penalties were stupid one’s in some cases and they cost us dearly.

Simpsons departure was a bit of a blow as he was looking sharp. In fairness Braley got into the match more and more as it developed; but he doesn’t seem to install the same confidence and sense of direction as WH or JS.

We appeared to be lacking leadership last night. It was as if the side had no one at the helm.

Finally .Polledri. It has been asked so many times …. why is he on the bench?. Why?......

Inexperienced in the role as Captain ; but IMO he already leads by example !!
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Chalker 15 Feb 2020 15:27 pm said..

We were disappointed to hear some small pockets of booing when Matt K came on last night, not sure if it was pantomime?
Wonder where he is heading at the end of the season?
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