RWC19 "Stuff"
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Every World Cup to date has been won by a team winning all their matches at the tournament. If this is to be maintained it needs Wales or Japan to win it.
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Did a bit of digging, as I do and found that:
1. "Typhoon" Season runs from June - October. Technically Tropical Storm season but Typhoon seems the preferred Media frightener.
2. Peak season is Jul & Aug.
3. So far, in order of severity, 38 Tropical depressions, 19 Tropical Storms, a couple classed as Severe, and 3 Typhoons .
4. Deaths so far 194.
5. Cost in damages, etc $10.9 billion.
6. Typhoon Haggis, ( Hagibis really, but I couldn't resist the dig & that's banter not racism ) is, unfortunately the biggest of the season.
Now whilst RWC organisers are getting all the flack, it should be remembered that the member Countries voted for it and so, can't really whine about cancelled matches. 52% of RWC revenue goes to the "Founder" Nations, so Eng, Sco, Wal, Ire,Fra, Sa, Aus & NZ voted for the cash. The fact that one of them, Sco could get dumped out, would be ironic. On the other hand if they'd beaten Ire, it would be an odds on bet you wouldn't have heard a squeak out of them.
More detailed info here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Paci ... oon_season
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lovejoy wrote:Every World Cup to date has been won by a team winning all their matches at the tournament. If this is to be maintained it needs Wales or Japan to win it.
assuming Scotland v Japan is cancelled then it would have to be Wales ...
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DieTrying wrote:Clive's Pants wrote:So what do the regulations state should there be a further weather event affecting a quarter or semi final? Toss of a coin?!
Postponed Matches
Where a knock-out Match cannot be commenced on the scheduled Match day, it will be considered aspostponed, and will be re-scheduled to be played within the two days following the scheduled Match day, orsuch longer period as determined by RWCL.
Cancelled Matches
Where a knock-out Match cannot commence within the two days following the scheduled Match day (or such longer period as specified by RWCL) or is abandoned prior to half-time and cannot be postponed and rescheduled within this period, it shall be considered as cancelled.
In such situations, the following sequential criteria shall apply to determine the winner of the cancelled Match:
The Team with the most Match points from the pool phase (applicable in quarter-finals and semifinals).
The Team which in all its Tournament Matches has the best difference between points scored for and points scored against.
The Team which in all its Tournament Matches has the best difference between tries scored for and tries scored against.
The Team which in all its Tournament Matches has scored most points.
The Team which in all its Tournament Matches has scored most tries.
Where all criteria above are not able to determine a winner, the Team that is higher ranked in the official World Rugby World Rankings at the time the Match is scheduled to be played (this criterion will not apply for the Final; in the case that the winner of the Final cannot be determined from the above criteria the two Teams shall be jointly declared winners).
That's fascinating. So those that have cancelled matches are at an immediate disadvantage as they weren't allowed to get pool points or tries.
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Also worth mentioning that Scotland voted against Ireland hosting in 2023 despite promising to do so. They then took the French money on offer.
Not too many tears being shed over here for their predicament
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Steve M wrote:lovejoy wrote:Every World Cup to date has been won by a team winning all their matches at the tournament. If this is to be maintained it needs Wales or Japan to win it.
assuming Scotland v Japan is cancelled then it would have to be Wales ...
Also true that every world cup has won by a team who have never lost a game within the tournament. Which provides England and New Zealand with a glimmer of hope
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Just had a RWC update from Google.. NZ 0 v 0 Italy. FT.
How did the Gloucester boys play? Do they get caps for it?
Now the England result too...Youngs had a shocker in a dull 0-0 draw.
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Beddis wrote:Also worth mentioning that Scotland voted against Ireland hosting in 2023 despite promising to do so. They then took the French money on offer.
Not too many tears being shed over here for their predicament
Not sure of the relevance. Equally irrelevant but didn't Ireland vote for NZ to host it rather than Japan 8 years ago then, low and behold, they end up with some lucrative matches vs the ABs in return.
Overall its heartily unsatisfying.
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Surely the cancellation of Saturday's games with no option of playing a day or two later and/or at an alternative venue has set a precedent - i.e. any other games which are unable to be played as scheduled at the chosen stadium must also be cancelled completely? Four teams have had their 4th games removed from them, so why should any other teams in a similar situation then get to play a revised game?
As was stated at the press conference yesterday, the rules of the tournament are clear in this regard, and all participating countries signed up to this, so are legally tied to it (whether they like it or not). The rules may be different for 2023, although tropical storms are less likely in France...
England and France had both qualified already, although the result of their game could have affected the quarter-final line-up (i.e. who-plays-who). NZ and Italy would almost certainly have been a resounding NZ win, although we'll never know, and Italy are going home.
If Scotland are knocked out as a result of a 0-0 cancelled game, then that is a bit rough on them, but that's the way it will be. If they were to be on the favourable end of such an outcome, they would of course be very happy and less than impressed if the disadvantaged team then suggested legal action. Them's the breaks.