RWC19 "Stuff"
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The Vic wrote:Sky blue wrote:The Vic wrote: For me I feel gutted for Italy and believe they should have had their chance, its fast becoming a pointless tournament with zero meaning
For Scotland and Italy fans - yes. But from an English fan's perspective it's building nicely.
Put your side in the same predicament and it would be very different
Maybe?
But luckily (?) my team didn't put me in that predicament.
On a plus note for all of us - we get Chris Harris back sooner. Can we all agree that is good news?
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https://www.rugbydump.com/news/timisoar ... alled-off/
So a Russian team can be fined for a freak snowstorm with their limited budgets, yet the showpiece of the rugby world has to (rightly obviously) cancel a few games and no effective punishment.
This World Cup has been very poor so far with all the non-contests and red card inconsistencies. Certainly nothing approaching the quality or excitement of the Six Nations, hopefully the knock out stages will get it started properly
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VIC: As I'm fairly ambivalent to the current England set up in the International game but have NZ to win with a side bet on SA, you'll get nothing from me. 
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CMGC wrote:The time to moan about matches being cancelled was a year or so ago when the regs were first out and then signed up to by everyone. The rule was very clear no moving , rerunning or changing of pool games. As a result everyone knew you had to get your points in early just in case. EJ was banging on about this a few months ago. Japan got their win in early against Ire, Scotland didn't. They all knew what "could happen". Of course it is a shame IF the game doesn't get played but the Scotland officials are not winning any friends with this stance.
I bow to your foresight CMGC, I must hold my hand up and say, I actually didn’t look up the typhoon protocols sub paragraphs a year before this tournament began. Feeling a tad embarrassed now.
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CMGC wrote:The time to moan about matches being cancelled was a year or so ago when the regs were first out and then signed up to by everyone. The rule was very clear no moving , rerunning or changing of pool games. As a result everyone knew you had to get your points in early just in case. EJ was banging on about this a few months ago. Japan got their win in early against Ire, Scotland didn't. They all knew what "could happen". Of course it is a shame IF the game doesn't get played but the Scotland officials are not winning any friends with this stance.
I agree.
It’s irrelevant which team is involved. The rules were known as were the fixtures. If it were England in this predicament then they’d only have themselves to blame. I feel sorry for Scotland if the game is cancelled, but they are making themselves look like prats by considering taking some form of legal action. This has been a brilliant World Cup so far and a real credit to Japan and her people. It’s rather selfish of Scotland to consider rubbishing it in this way. It must be a terrible pressure to place on their players who will potentially be seen as ‘sore losers’. Take a leaf from the Japanese; be humble, be honourable and be respectful. This proposed action is none of these things.
"The Holy Writ of Gloucester Rugby Club demands: first, that the forwards shall win the ball; second, that the forwards shall keep the ball; and third, the backs shall buy the beer." - Doug Ibbotson
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Tuffty wrote:CMGC wrote:The time to moan about matches being cancelled was a year or so ago when the regs were first out and then signed up to by everyone. The rule was very clear no moving , rerunning or changing of pool games. As a result everyone knew you had to get your points in early just in case. EJ was banging on about this a few months ago. Japan got their win in early against Ire, Scotland didn't. They all knew what "could happen". Of course it is a shame IF the game doesn't get played but the Scotland officials are not winning any friends with this stance.
I agree.
It’s irrelevant which team is involved. The rules were known as were the fixtures. If it were England in this predicament then they’d only have themselves to blame. I feel sorry for Scotland if the game is cancelled, but they are making themselves look like prats by considering taking some form of legal action. This has been a brilliant World Cup so far and a real credit to Japan and her people. It’s rather selfish of Scotland to consider rubbishing it in this way. It must be a terrible pressure to place on their players who will potentially be seen as ‘sore losers’. Take a leaf from the Japanese; be humble, be honourable and be respectful. This proposed action is none of these things.
After listening to the Scotlands news conference, I actually don't think they are being selfish. You can't expect the SRU to give up, shrug the shoulders and walk off. The SRU are trying to appeal to common sense, if you listen to the conference Dodson comes across as fairly conciliatory. I very much doubt anything will come of the QC stuff.
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Tuffty wrote:CMGC wrote:The time to moan about matches being cancelled was a year or so ago when the regs were first out and then signed up to by everyone. The rule was very clear no moving , rerunning or changing of pool games. As a result everyone knew you had to get your points in early just in case. EJ was banging on about this a few months ago. Japan got their win in early against Ire, Scotland didn't. They all knew what "could happen". Of course it is a shame IF the game doesn't get played but the Scotland officials are not winning any friends with this stance.
I agree.
It’s irrelevant which team is involved. The rules were known as were the fixtures. If it were England in this predicament then they’d only have themselves to blame. I feel sorry for Scotland if the game is cancelled, but they are making themselves look like prats by considering taking some form of legal action. This has been a brilliant World Cup so far and a real credit to Japan and her people. It’s rather selfish of Scotland to consider rubbishing it in this way. It must be a terrible pressure to place on their players who will potentially be seen as ‘sore losers’. Take a leaf from the Japanese; be humble, be honourable and be respectful. This proposed action is none of these things.
+1
Scottish Rugby Union making themselves look very silly with their comments. Will win no friends and just make themselves look chippier than normal.
IF game goes ahead will definitely be supporting Japan !!
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To answer some points.
I feel very sorry for all the fans who have travelled and spent good money not to see a game.
I also feel it is not great for the WC as a competition. WR should have taken more care on dealing with this possibility.
However the management of all the teams will have ( or certainly have no excuse for not knowing) been aware and as Eng did taken full acount of the possiblilities. Not much use crying when the results don't go your way.
I would take just the same view if it were any country . If you run the schedule so that it is fair on all the teams and have 4 games in 3 weeks thne you don't have time to rescedule. Just because it ends up being a key game ( unlike the Eng one) isn't a fair reason to replay it and then leave the qualifier with less time to prepare for the 1/4's.
Anyway lets hope the game is played and the best team wins.
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Worth a listen to https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0009blz
I think it reflects fairly what is and what will happen should the typhoon be as bad as feared. That said, as much as I'd like the game to be played (particularly for Italy), as much as I think there should be a plan B and the World Rugby should be a bit embarrassed that they've not got one. I'd much rather no one lose their life from this typhoon, and so for the sake of peoples lives (which is far more important than rugby) I hope its not as bad as feared.
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CMGC wrote:To answer some points.
I feel very sorry for all the fans who have travelled and spent good money not to see a game.
I also feel it is not great for the WC as a competition. WR should have taken more care on dealing with this possibility.
However the management of all the teams will have ( or certainly have no excuse for not knowing) been aware and as Eng did taken full acount of the possiblilities. Not much use crying when the results don't go your way.
I would take just the same view if it were any country . If you run the schedule so that it is fair on all the teams and have 4 games in 3 weeks thne you don't have time to rescedule. Just because it ends up being a key game ( unlike the Eng one) isn't a fair reason to replay it and then leave the qualifier with less time to prepare for the 1/4's.
Anyway lets hope the game is played and the best team wins.
Fans: Agreed.
WR: See my Tropical Storm post earlier & remember that member countries voted for Japan, so hardly the Executives fault.
Team Management: Only themselves to blame, if they didn't take all possibilities into account.